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Re: re reply

PostPosted: February 16th, 2009, 2:00 pm
by OfficerMike07
xonenine Wrote:Well I apologize to you guys here, I feel embarrased now but I knew he was ranting without giving it a fair try.xonenine :oops:


Well, well, Mr. Unpleasant... and logokas' reply was actually fairly respectful. What has the world come to?

re the recent unpleasantness

PostPosted: February 16th, 2009, 2:29 pm
by xonenine
I will read the Layer Keyword Reference, as penance,hehe :-#

PostPosted: February 18th, 2009, 10:58 am
by SLoB
lol no no the layer reference heheh ;)

seriously though, we could all possibly contribute to some documentation at some point, the problem is with that tho is the old tale of no one bothers to rtfm until something stops working
so its kind of a double edged sword, least if there is some documentation then it could be translated etc.. altho how hard is it to actually use without documentation?
Cliff goes to great lengths to try and make things intuitive or even takes the choice away as to not confuse or allow too much user control but still have some advanced stuff for more advanced users.

re documentation

PostPosted: February 18th, 2009, 2:00 pm
by xonenine
Yes, I've never learned about the wiki process but it would be great to have a writer, someone of logokas' caliber.That windows 7 article was quite good. Officermike and jikaru also say very concise things, well ordered and well thought out.I started reading some of Lances stuff too, the other day.There are some good resources on tap here.

I would offer another idea, which is maybe a part two advanced skin tutorial, to cover some of the more complex ideas we consider must haves in a skin, along w/ pictures.Or someone could help compile a list of tutorial catagories, if that would help. xonenine. :)

I suppose that has been suggested, but a simple one like color switching, layer switching, interface switching, the vu meter basics, a couple more things like that.

inservo was useful after all, he started this thread.

PostPosted: February 19th, 2009, 1:36 am
by SLoB
I wouldn't give him a pat on the back for that, we are using his negativity for positive.
We need people to help not whine so his attitude is his own undoing

also remember a good percentage of people never read the manual until something goes wrong which is why it has probably not surfaced yet ;)

PostPosted: February 19th, 2009, 6:29 am
by logokas
Anybody familiar with setting up a custom wiki?

Honestly though, i have no idea what to write in it.

"Press the media buttons to control the player. This varies with skin designs."

Jeez. The only documentation that is required so far, are the special triggers, like the Shift key. It's not self-explanatory, and it's hidden. That's what, 2 sentences?

I call Epic Facepalm.

PostPosted: February 19th, 2009, 6:43 am
by OfficerMike07
It is quoted from the Book of Xion:

And so it was on the thirteenth day, that Cliff spoketh,
"Given no media buttons on the chosen skin, thou shalt right-click on Xion's interface or system tray icon, then click on the desired command." Having heard this news, the people rejoiced, pleased that they could employ even the most minimalistic skins without sacrificing functionality.

re docs

PostPosted: February 19th, 2009, 8:42 am
by xonenine
I don't feel I.m as qualified as some of you to write the documentation ably, but I'd like to hear what you think should be covered in a skin tutorial part two, kind of get an outline of subjects to cover...xonenine :)

then in that case we could start a new thread if we have to...

PostPosted: February 19th, 2009, 8:59 am
by Cliff Cawley
Just to calm the fears of the people, I will be setting up documentation soon. For now, please all continue with your skins ;)

Cliff :)

PostPosted: February 19th, 2009, 10:43 am
by logokas
I don't have time to make skins, i'm too busy criticizing everyone else's!

PostPosted: February 20th, 2009, 11:06 am
by SLoB
don't forget we already have a wiki over at sc dedicated to Xion too, if anyone needs any info or privileges then gimme a shout, can't remember how we've set it up but should be able to add anything else

PostPosted: February 20th, 2009, 10:00 pm
by logokas
Lets take a look at said Wiki, then.

PostPosted: February 21st, 2009, 7:07 am
by SLoB

PostPosted: February 21st, 2009, 7:23 am
by logokas
Well, it covers skinning, but not much for the player itself.

PostPosted: February 21st, 2009, 7:36 am
by SLoB
well thers your slot logokas ;) fill in the blanks heheh :)
let me know if u need anything but feel free to add :)