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Xion 1.0 build 107 Beta Release

PostPosted: December 19th, 2008, 11:56 pm
by Cliff Cawley
This is a Beta Build. That means it has fixes and features that are NEW. It is also possible it has bugs that are NEW! If you are looking for stability, please don't expect this build to be perfectly stable. It may have issues. If on the other hand you are happy to try this build out and post any bugs back in this thread, then please do!

Download Installer Version:
r2 Studios Server ->
Xion Server ->

If you receive errors when running, install the VS2005 Runtimes
Download from Microsoft ->

  • Fixed crossfading volume when you weren't using 100% volume - Thanks Jhirst!
  • Added support for automatic proxy settings through Control Panel -> Internet Options. If you setup a proxy here, Xion will use it when performing an Update check

If you find bugs specifically related to this build, please post them here instead of the Bug reporting forum. Any feedback positive or negative should also go in here, no new threads. This way all feedback, etc related to this build will be in the one place.


I still haven't received any feedback on the skinnable playlist! Has anyone out there tried to create their own? Has anyone made a playlist skin and found a bug?

The main changes for this build are the Update Check and Crossfading features along with the fix for Vista so that Xion skins now correctly download on Vista as .xsf instead of .zip. This is a semi re-release of 106 as I forgot to include the proxy connection settings. With 107 Xion will use the Internet Settings Proxy settings from your Control Panel. I also fixed a bug with the Crossfader. Let me hear your feedback! :)

Any questions or bugs related to this build should be posted here only!


Cliff :)

PostPosted: December 20th, 2008, 12:25 am
by Lance
Thanks a lot Cliff. I'm going to make a playlist RIGHT NOW. I will get back to with as soon as pos :)

Peace, Lance

PostPosted: December 20th, 2008, 10:59 am
by Cliff Cawley
Lance Wrote:Thanks a lot Cliff. I'm going to make a playlist RIGHT NOW. I will get back to with as soon as pos :)

Peace, Lance

Thanks Lance! :D

Cliff 8)

PostPosted: December 21st, 2008, 12:52 am
by Ilko
hey Cliff

is it possible to release the build 108 ?

PostPosted: December 21st, 2008, 3:19 am
cliff, first of all sorry there wasn´t more reply on the skinnable playlist from me... from some reasons I mentioned in another thread I decided to keep out of this discussion...

and since a few builds there are some things that confuse me...

I always get chaotic things happen in the playlist. sometimes it shows up, then parts of the default skin are mixed in there or huge parts of magic pink. The problem is this seems to be happening completely random, at least I couldn´t find out some ´rules´ of the bug, nor can I reproduce it always, all I know is it happens after loading a new skin... That´s why I didn´t mention that earlier...

another thing is that this ´over-states above other over-states´ thing you once reimplemented (you remember? ;) ) has also got mixed up since some builds. You know the technique I´m using e.g. in gamag, caruso and others of my skins. Again, I can´t find out when and why exactly :(

I know this isn´t much of a help but after all wanted to report that...

P.S. vista 32bit you know...
P.P.S. got that weired playlist phenomenon also on some XP comp...

PostPosted: December 21st, 2008, 6:32 am
by WinstonGFX
@ALAS: I'm running into the same issue with the playlist, seems to occur pretty randomly, I am about to test my hand at a custom playlist on a skin i am designing too

@Cliff: I have noticed a bit of a bug with making a Play/Pause button... my method worked on build 100, but in the last bunch of builds it would not work the same way (though I have figured out a workaround solution)

PostPosted: December 21st, 2008, 12:49 pm
by Lance
Same here....
It's pretty much impossible to work on a a PL skin right now. It should be just as easy to drag the psd onto it once and just hit F5 to refresh like you do with the main player. But this isn't the case and along with the random mess that occurs, it pretty much renders it unskinnable! Hope you can sort this dude...

LOL, at least you have some feedback now :)

Peace, Lance

re playlist

PostPosted: December 22nd, 2008, 1:10 am
by xonenine
Im having the same issues w playlist building in that it works, but the ensuing playlist is very unstable. I'll try incorporating it into a zip and xsf and run it that way, with the skin residing in interfaces. xonenine :)

Every aspect of the playlist skinning works, when they are residing in a skin in xion. I think that most of the issues we're seeing are the result of not finalizing and installing the playlist in xion. If that extra step is necessary, it's no big deal, and makes sense that all the "errors" so to speak are being generated on the fly, as you can see many errors resolved on opening/closing playlist.
xonenine :)

PostPosted: December 22nd, 2008, 8:58 am
by Cliff Cawley
So there are problems when dragging/dropping the PSD files? There are no problems if its zipped up?

Cliff :)

re playlist

PostPosted: December 22nd, 2008, 9:31 am
by xonenine
The ones i zip and add to xion in a zip file work well, yes. The skins which are just drag and dropped seem to want to default to the default.
xonenine :)

Re: re playlist

PostPosted: December 22nd, 2008, 1:32 pm
by Cliff Cawley
xonenine Wrote:The ones i zip and add to xion in a zip file work well, yes. The skins which are just drag and dropped seem to want to default to the default.
xonenine :)

Ok cool, I'll have to look into why that's happening! Shame I only found out now, you guys need to speak up more!! :P

Cliff :)

re playlist

PostPosted: December 23rd, 2008, 12:49 am
by xonenine
I got a chance to work on pl some more, even the ones placed in interfaces folder often have to be set at least once manually by browsing to the pl skin.

Whichever pl skin was used last seems to stay in memory until changed manually, not necessarily the default skin.

It can't be a good thing that they're all named playlist.psd, would some kind of modified id tag help?

hope that helps, xonenine :)

PostPosted: December 23rd, 2008, 4:11 am
by pickle
Crossfading seems to have a bug. Previous files aren't fading out when the current file is a net stream.

To reproduce:
  1. Play a file/stream
  2. In the playlist window, double click on a stream
  3. The new stream will start playing overtop the previous file/stream

This doesn't happen when going to a local file, only a stream. Stopping and starting playback removes the previous file & only the current file is played.

PostPosted: December 23rd, 2008, 4:21 am
by leadfoot
I've been using 1.05 for a couple of weeks and just upped that to 1.07. With the Pure Adium skin (and skinned playlist), I'm using 8M of RAM. Just eight. The skinned playlist works perfectly, and the playlist sorting address one of the things that kept me from using Xion regularly.

Now, add album art, and I may have a new default player! (Yeah, I know it's on the wishlist, but I keep hoping. )

Re: re playlist

PostPosted: December 23rd, 2008, 8:58 am
by Cliff Cawley
xonenine Wrote: It can't be a good thing that they're all named playlist.psd, would some kind of modified id tag help?

You don't need to call it playlist.psd, you can call it whatever you like. Xion will check for valid playlist tags when loading it from the Skin browser and if its a playlist it will send it to the playlist component.

Cliff :)