I love stargate, that is a very good idea Vinnie, I will download a couple .3ds files today and post one, thanks!!!

btw, just look at some of my first skins, and have a laugh, they are awful, hehe.I was so interested in function I didn't even see how they looked...

Here's a stargate, where the author made ALL the symbols etc on two flat disks covering the gate-have to delete them for my purposes.The gate itself will be ok w/ some fiddling...

Edit:there is another model the same author made, for another mode, a control console for the stargate...